I (and many others) really wanted Apple to adopt Hamish Sanderson’s SwiftAutomation for 10.13, but apparently not enough people responded (or Apple is still addicted to its “not-invented-here” dogma). Hamish’s AppScript was an inspirational start, and SwiftAutomation would have been a long-held dream come true.
These are very dark days for Mac system-level automation; that Hamish is not a speaker at CMD-D is a glaring omission. Adam, for decades, I have had great respect and appreciation for you and your crew!, but this page is just hype over a dying carcass.
Blessings to you, Tonya, and to everyone at TidBITS!
Appreciate the sentiment, although I'm not a fan of current US Border policy of Free Cavity Searches For All, so would not be attending anyway, even if Sal did have the basic courtesy and professionalism to send me an invite. (Which he does not.)
Folks, let's avoid the personal invective. No one owes anyone anything by default, and everything is far more complicated on the inside than it seems from the outside.
Adam, that you were gracious enough to allow my post in the first place speaks volumes about your (and your team’s) integrity. Your long-established and highly respected stature in the Mac community is well-earned.
However . . .
When a company (Apple Computer) hoards hundreds of billions of dollars, nothing “is far more complicated on the inside.”
Certainly, we should be grateful that we may (finally!) be getting an upgrade to HFS+. Let us pray that Apple considers user data also worthy of checksums.
But those of us “who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world” and have devoted our lives to that end, have not been treated with much respect by a company that now focusses primarily on making gadgets for social networking. You know very well, Adam, that I am not alone in this sentiment!
Bless you, Brother (and to you too, Hamish!!).
Adam, I’ve nothing against Sal on a personal level—I don’t know Sal the person. I do have everything against him as Automation Product Manager—a role he proved hopelessly unfit for. If he didn’t want me calling out his faults in public he should’ve accepted/declined my advice & expertise with grace & attitude back when I was offering it in private. You don’t see me treating others badly for calling me out on my own errors—it’s the highest form of complement when they take the time and effort to explain exactly why and where you’re screwing up and how to put it right.
OF COURSE Apple owes us nothing—we’re only customers. We can choose to buy a product or not. But millions—no, BILLIONS—of users are being casually stripped of the rights to control & shape their own tools, while the one person IN THE WORLD best positioned to change this ACCELERATES IT INSTEAD, all cos he can’t rise past his own ego. Sorry I’m techy, but these stakes are 7 BILLION times bigger than you, me, or Sal’s feels.
I have nothing against criticism of Apple when it's deserved (and we do it all the time), but I can guarantee that there are powerful forces inside Apple (and all other major tech companies) that are pushing and pulling policy in numerous unknown directions. What seems obvious to us from the outside could be completely untenable internally for multiple business, technical, and political reasons.
I don't like it either, and it's not an excuse, just a reality that we should all keep in mind. What comes out of a large company is never the result of everyone coming together and saying "What a good idea!" There are always multiple factions, winners and losers, and the buck stops pretty high up in many of these companies.
There are always at least two sides to every story, and often many more. Regardless, this is neither the time (what's past is past, and Sal is no longer employed by Apple) nor the place (this article is about the CMD-D conference) to air personal or professional grievances.
I will delete any future comments on this article that go beyond the topic of the CMD-D conference, along with anything that refers to an individual.
Frankly, I'm perturbed by this entire exchange. Creating CMD-D has taken Sal and Paul and Naomi a significant amount of time and effort, and I see it as a highly positive contribution to the Apple community. I dislike having TidBITS used to distract from that.
Adam, you have been most gracious; I have no need to further elaborate upon my part of this thread. Please allow me to close with a quote from George Bernard Shaw:
“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.”
Hello all. I'm interested in knowing more about iOS and Mac deployment automation solutions. I work for a company that uses an MDM to deploy and manage +10,000 company owned iOS devices. We use Apple's Device Enrollment Program (DEP), and Volume Purchase Program (VPP). We're trying to learn more about what tools are available to automate the process of initial deployment, device replacement process, etc. We're also starting to enroll and manage MacOS devices in our MDM. I've reached out to the organizers of the CMD-D conference for more details because I think that this may be a good start for us.
We are engaged with Apple and our MDM vendor, but I'd also like to hear from others about tools, technologies, books, seminars, and web sites where we can learn more about the automation of the iOS and MacOS device management process. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. Thank you.
CMD-D is definitely a good place to start with this, but you should also check out JAMF own conference, the MacTech Conference, and various other sysadmin-focused events. Here's our full list of conferences for the year:http://tidbits.com/article/17110
Also, you might want to join the MacAdmins Slack group.http://macadmins.herokuapp.com/
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